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I have found 1921 to be the earliest use of the term "Put & Take." The spread and popularity of Put & Takes was a true "craze," a term applied to Put & Takes even then. Lavalette, a French firm, and Bosch, a German firm, partnered between WW I and WW II.) Unusual bi-level top with 8 colored balls. This piece is in all original pre-owned condition age related wear and marks. Same as top #4 in the chart above, except one side is COLON, not COLIN. described it as, "Vintage 6 sided Bi-level "Odds On" Spinner, Circa 1920s. The top level sides are marked with the odds in this order: " E [Even], 2-1, 4-1, 5-1, 6-1, 8-1." The bottom level is marked with the symbols in this order: crown, heart, spade, anchor, diamond, club.. Looks to be made of brass with a silver coloured finish. The above three pictures show how a Put and Take can be rigged for cheating. One unusual rule: "If a PUT and an ALL are rolled, then the player puts in an amount equal to the entire pot." While unusual, I have seen this rule mentioned many times. Per seller: "The bidding is for ONE dice only, I have shown 2 in the photo to show more faces of the dice. This is my version of a game I loved as a child called "Put & Take". Hand lathed of aluminum, well balanced for long spins.The Put & Take craze enveloped the world in the 1920s and 30s, as seen everywhere in games, newspaper stories, songs, plays, movies, punchboards, and reform movements to outlaw the spinners and games. G." stands for "Sans Garantie Du Gouvernement" (="without government guarantee"). Click here for full information and pictures on another page. The top breaks down and you can move the tumblers off and on, depending on what you are playing." Tri-level Crown & Anchor. ....there are chips to the paintwork in places." The top is 6-sided, each level has these 6 sides: X 1 2 3 4 5. "STILL IN GOOD WORKING PERIOD CONDITION, THIS PARTICULAR TEETOTEM IS RARE BECAUSE IT IS TRI-LEVEL WITH 3 INDEPENDENTLY SPINNING DECKS OR LEVELS. Grey Lag-Colon-- Man-O-War--Morvich- Zev-Spark Plug DISQ, 5-1, 4-1, 8-1, 6-1, 2-1 Crown and Anchor. The typed instructions came with the rigged tops when ordered from a gambling supply house. "Blue Book" (copyright 1932), which at that time had offices in eight major cities across the U. Notice how the middle ones are nice and symmetrical -- straight/fair/honest. Per seller, "Put N Take Dreidel - Gambling Spinner - Made in Wisconsin USA, Made in Wisconsin USA, CNC Machined from Aircraft Grade Aluminum. Dealer, in e Bay August 2009 auction description, says: "... A box of 1 dozen 3/4" dice for the game Put & Take etched in black, red and blue. "The original game was a spinning top but this dice version is easier for younger children who can't make a top spin. "The 6 faces read - PUT 1, PUT 2, ALL PUT, TAKE 1, TAKE 2 & TAKE ALL. "This is a fun way to teach children about turn taking, following game rules, number value, winning & losing! English lettering is CNC-engraved and hand painted. This auction includes one aluminum top, instruction card, and small fabric gift bag. ," as described by e Bay seller rembet33 in Oct 2009. per e Bay seller, March 2010: "Well, I came up with a design and had it made and now am selling it to other Put and Take enthusiasts looking for an ultimate game experience that can be carried with you wherever you go.It is the newest and latest craze to tempt our gambling instinct, and is all the rage all over the country. The reddish one near the top has a needle and thread inside. About half are made of catalin; others bone, wood, celluloid and ordinary plastic. Three of them are mechanical lead pencils that are to be rolled for the Put and Take effect. Once on that web page, you will see links for a drawing of the devise, abstract, description, claims, etc. It is also in about the 5th picture on this page, along with other bakelite tops. I bought these two on e Bay June 2013, 5 total delivered. I don't think there was a layout, and I don't think one played against the "house." Rather, like with poker dice, each player would spin his own "hand," and the highest hand would win. (Source.) The Put & Take shown here is from my collection. The spindle can be pushed to work in either direction. Rather, the "top is fixed so that a tap one way will make little weights enter the "Takes" [sides], while another tap will put the weights into the "Puts" [sides]. This top is illustrated in the explanatory drawings." (From "The Bunco Book," Walter B. The cheat could spin the top clockwise or counter-clockwise as he wished (as done with the three red celluloid spinners above.). As this is ten sided it also has Put Three, Take Three, Put Five, and Spin Again." Modern. Buy it now price is for ONE reproduction only (not original). See this link for patent, dates and corporate information. "T2" - Take 2: The spinner takes (gets paid) 2 from the pot. Perfectly balanced and weighing in at 24 grams, it is designed to spin perfectly for beginners and pros spinners alike." Price: .95 (February 2014). A SUPERB NOVELTY HAND CRAFTED WW 1 COMMEMORATIVE TOKEN KEEPSAKE. I spend quite sometime hand sanding them to get the balance just right and am very proud of them! Called by the e Bay seller: antique, brass, hollow in the inside, and no "top cover." June 2010. this piece has a brass rod that appears to be pressed into the inside of the base; and doesn't appear to have ever had, or needed, a top covering piece. (The "Rocky Top" spinners have serifs to the "T" and "P," which the ones pictured here do not have.) Non-magnetic, probably made of aluminum. Uner that, in a circle, is the name of the game: "Put & Take." Below that is, "Insert penny. Advertised on e Bay (wants 0 plus shipping) as a put and take, but I wonder. Dealer says: "Rare 1920s Trompolin Wooden Put & Take/Spinning Top/Teetotum w/Box&Instructions [in Spanish] ... Click here to see the instructions and British patent number. There are instructions printed on the inside of the top of the box. Made by the Durable Toy & Novelty Company of New York.
The Dreidel (a four-sided spinner with Put & Take-like instructions on the sides) was developed in 16th century Germany. I sold a similar one on e Bay in July 2013 for .
Pictured above are the most common type of Put and Takes. when you read words on the sides (almost always the six-sided ones) is the handle on the right or the left? solid put & takes, OR bi-level ones (very rare -- see tops #7 and #8 in the large table below). are the words/letters printed, engraved, or embossed (rare)? the particular words/letters on the sides and the order they are in. any name on the spinner (advertising name or maker's name)? -- I thank Marianne Jager, of the Netherlands, for the above picture of her ancient Put and Take spinner and the following informatrion. The top has 6 letters: A (al = take all), B (bij = add? BOTH ARE 2 1/4" TALL TO TOP OF WOOD HANDLES X 1 1/16" WIDE. I finally got a nice one on e Bay for somewhat less in March 2011. If it had landed Jack Two, it would be a pair of Jacks. Dealer said, "Bottom die reads: "Ball, Hit, Ball, Strike, Foul, Strike" Top die reads: "H. The P1 side is just the opposite: straight-flat at the bottom, and rounded at the top. This spinner is celluloid, 1-1/2," from my collection. This is a modern Put and Take (maker calls it a "spinner" and "dreidel") that I first noticed appearing on e Bay in October 2008. The one on the left weighs a very high 56 grams (2 ounces! left one: 10-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, PUT FIVE, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE, SPIN AGAIN. Seller said, "Game includes authentic solid brass Put'n'Take spinner (1"x1/2"), carry pouch, counters and instructions in a compact display box". "WTA" - Winner Take All: The spinner wins the whole pot! Note how the front of the replica unscrews to become a Put & Take. This tiny device (only about 1 3/16" tall x 5/8" wide; weights only .2 oz.! Perfect for any gambling, gaming, or put & take collection / display." Vintage? This small gaming device is unusual in that it is nickel plated, about 1 1/8" tall x 11/16" wide, and weights a mere .2 oz.." "NICE OLD [? 1-1/4 inches, 10 grams, non-magnetic, easy to pick up and spin, and spins very well. The dealer who sold it to me had nine of them, calls them vintage, but I wonder. Per seller: "6-sided spinner for the game "toma todo" aka "put and take." Sides are labeled in Spanish. Seller says: "Listed is an antique ( 3 in 1 ) put & take, dice & marking pencil. The clip on pencil has a put & take on one end that screws into pencil. And on the other end has a pencil point that goes in & out of the tip.? I can make out these sections: Take All (with star), P1, T3, P2, All Put, T2.... It looks like there are beads on a wire, below -- to keep score? The instructions for all games are printed around the sides, including Roulette, Odd Or Even, Hi-Lo, Play The Flags, Play The Marbles, and Put And Take.
They were usually small, about an inch high, and made of brass. She says, "In the Netherlands 18th 19th century they made spinners from silver, like in the picture. Lengh 3.2 cm, weight 6.8 gram "The letters on each of the 6 sides: A - only take B - to pay N - nothing to take T - take D - double put S put." She adds, "The letters on the sides are difficult to read, old fashioned Dutch," so she is giving an approximate translation. That much is for sure." In a reference work, she found, "... ), S (set=put), T (trek= take), D (dubbel=double) and N (niet=not, nothing)." None of this should be surprising, what with the Teetotum gambling top being known in ancient Greece and the Dreidel (put and take instructions on the four-sided spinner) being developed in 16th century Germany -- source here . ONE IS RED AND CREAM BAKELITE AND ONE IS GREEN AND CREAM BAKELITE. Just goes to show that prices fluctuate, so you can wait for the right price (sometimes).] "The top level reads TEN, NINE, ACE, KING, QUEEN, and JACK. It is lightweight, made of aluminum, and has a hole in the stem to accommodate a key chain. right one: 8-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE. Same seller, also called vintage with many listings. ] PUT AND TAKE SOLID BRASS SPINNER IN EXCELLENT CONDITION, ALL THE NUMBERS & LETTERS ARE ALL ALMOST PERFECT, NO MAJOR DENTS. " Looks modern to me, looks similar to these "Rocky Top" spinners, which are admittedly modern. P1 = pon 1, P2 = pon 2, Todos Ponen, T1 = toma 1, T2 = toma 2, Toma Todo. All these are only about each, but kind of cheap, plain looking, worth no more than that. They say, "7-sided heptagonal top / spinner / dreidel for the game put-and-take, aka toma todo. I was turned off by the big size of the item: "The size of the box is 9"x15"." The description said: ""A game of chance with dice and chips." Box top has staining, major corner and edgewear, one torn side and a small amount of graphic loss at one corner, otherwise solid. The top piece is designed to hold a single "D" battery with an attached light on the underside of the lid.
The commands on the six sides are usually in words. The commands are usually: take all, all put, take two, put one, take one, and put two.
8-sided tops, like the two typical ones on the left, have smaller sides than the 6-sided ones so the commands are in single letters, numerals, and symbols such as stars (*) and zeros (0). The one on the far left has these outcomes on the 8 sides: * (star means take all), T3, P1, T2, 0 (zero means all put), P3, T1, and P4.
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They also provide information on the letters (P, N, D, etc.) and initials (NG, ZS, TA, etc.) found on many, especially old, Put & Takes, teetotums, etc: Wikipedia Teetotum article . If it landed "0" or Put All or All Put, he would have to match the pot (the rule given in John Scarne's "Scarne on Dice.") or lose all his chips or each player would have to contribute to the pot, depending on the rules. Apparently the spinner was used to help simulate a baseball game -- no odds, no gambling use. Click here for an ad for a similar baseball top, also 1921. G -- 1= Ace - Ace A kings crown with an "R" under it -- R= Roi - King A queen's crown with a "D" under it - D= Dame - Queen Another type of hat with a "V" under it - V= Valet - Jack 10 diamonds" Note that it is over 1-1/2" tall. The teetotum measures 3.5cm tall." The spinner has to do with selecting and betting on sporting teams -- whether home or away team wins or there is a draw. Just the opposite would happen if you spin the same top counterclockwise or the top on the right clockwise. In his book "Scarne's New Complete Guide to Gambling," John Scarne describes this safer (for the cheats) method: two cheats start playing the game with a fair top in a bar or restaurant. When the action really gets going, one cheat switches a crooked top ("put" favored or "take" favored) in and out of the game as required. Half the time it does not spin; and the other half of the time it is a poor wobbly spin. Dealer masterpanus described it as "Put And Take Brass Teetotum Gambling Top Trench Art Replica -- Gambling teetotums hand made by me in San Diego, California. Each top I make is different since they are hand made. Seller says, "INCLUDED IN THIS SET ARE FOUR SETS OF DICE. The basket measures 2 1/2" long x 1 3/4" wide x 1 1/4" tall. Each are made of bone and feature black & red colored barrel shaped die & "Put & Take" spinning top piece. We've had seconds as our best spin." The large blue one (click here to see) is about 2" long and 1" wide. The red celluloid tops worked that way because the lower portion of the sides were rounded in such a way to force the desired outcome. Dealer said, "The contents of the game are the metal dreidel, 10 authentic Gold nugget replicas, rulebook with a very short history of the California gold rush, and a canvas pouch to hold it all. A., Original price tag from the Mel Fisher Museum of $10.95." note: I don't own this one. One collector reported to me that this top spins very poorly. Contents: 12 pieces coin , 1 spinning top,." Note: same chips as in the "Morgan's Revenge" set above. 54 cards contain instructions to put or take playing pieces with the pot or other players. The company makes many small metal machinist products like belt buckles, bottle openers, spinning tops, etc. I'd appreciate it if someone would tell me about the card game, how it is played, number of cards. It notes how some call "profit" a dirty word and want confiscatory taxes. Dealer described it as: "At auction today is a vintage Put and Take game of chance with a Birdseye Maple tray.